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Sig

United Kingdom
37 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2009 :  12:16:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Tommy

The planning process if you go through a builder usually ends up back with an architectural technician or planner. I know because i have builders come back to me with planning application & building regulation notifications that they have been asked to do.

It would be interesting to see what they charge!

If you want i can pull a quote together for you, although i'll need your address.

Hope this helps.

Best regards,



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Hi another question, I don't think I want to go through the planning permission process myself. who do you think is best to apply for me the Architect or the builder? I guess it would depend on what they charge which one you go with?

tommy10



Martin Sigournay BSc (Hons) C.A.P.D.
Lead Surveyor & Planning Consultant

Plan-It Architectural Design Consultants Ltd
Suite 11
The Waterhouse Business Centre
2 Cromar Way
Chelmsford, Es****
CM1 2QE

Office Tel: +44 (0) 1245 392198
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E-mail: martin@plan-it.uk.net
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tommy10

United Kingdom
38 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2009 :  23:34:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The TA's I have met with so far have priced £850 £1200 for planning and building Reg. The Architect reccommended to me by a builder I found on the Rated People website has quoted 10% of the build which the builder estimated at 18K. I was given conflicting informstion by 2 AT one told me I would need planning permission as I have used my permitted right as I have a loft conversion, the other told me I still have my permited right as my loft extension does not have a dorma window so I have not used the full allowance. I am meeting with 2 more TA next week by then I should no exactly what to do. I guess I will be paying in the region of £1000 pounds for an AT

tommy10
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tommy10

United Kingdom
38 Posts

Posted - 04/08/2009 :  01:18:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I met with an Architectural technician who sent me 2 quotes one from the chartered building surveyors firm he works for due to the smaller size of the project he has also sent me a quote to perform the work privately which he states will allow me to benefit from the expertise and backing of a larger surveying practice without the larger fee, the quote is a lot cheaper. The AT is an associate at the Surveying Practice. I need some advice I like the guy and his ideas. do you think I should go ahead and appoint him to do the work privately?

tommy10
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SKETCH3D

United Kingdom
80 Posts

Posted - 04/08/2009 :  07:31:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You shouldn't have to pay anything for an initial consultation unless you are particularly difficult to get to. Even then, you will be paying for a chat.

The initial visit is normally to take a brief and get an idea of the amount of work involved. You will then by sent a quotation which then gives you the option to use that building designer or someone else.

Typically when I do initial visits I do try to keep the visit brief as everyone's time is precious, I am not there to do a sales speech only to gather information and I would trust that my work speaks for its self in the decision making process.


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Originally posted by tommy10


hello

I have been speaking to Architect's regarding a kitchen extension.
I have been given quotes from £75 to £550 for an intial vist.

Just wondering what is the best way to choose an architect?

tommy10



Darren Bell (MCIAT)
http://www.sketch3d.co.uk
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SKETCH3D

United Kingdom
80 Posts

Posted - 04/08/2009 :  07:39:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Tommy.

1st Check that he carries professional indemnity insurance for his private work. This is an important safety net in case it all goes wrong. Rarely, but it can happen.

If he is a Chartered Architectural Technologist, Architect or Chartered building surveyor and he is poaching his employers work, then he is likely to be in breach of the code of conduct he is signed up to as part of having a chartered membership by having a conflict of interest.

There are of course plenty of non 'Technically qualified' services out there that produce good documentation. The only thing I would ask of them is to see some of their work, and check that they are insured.



quote:
Originally posted by tommy10

I met with an Architectural technician who sent me 2 quotes one from the chartered building surveyors firm he works for due to the smaller size of the project he has also sent me a quote to perform the work privately which he states will allow me to benefit from the expertise and backing of a larger surveying practice without the larger fee, the quote is a lot cheaper. The AT is an associate at the Surveying Practice. I need some advice I like the guy and his ideas. do you think I should go ahead and appoint him to do the work privately?

tommy10



Darren Bell (MCIAT)
http://www.sketch3d.co.uk
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tommy10

United Kingdom
38 Posts

Posted - 04/09/2009 :  13:51:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the advice. I will not be going with the AT who offered to do the work privately as it didn’t seem right to me and the companys quote was very expensive I met with an AT yesterday who is registered with CIAT and he was excellent, he gave me so much information and clarified exactly what his role would be and understood my brief to the letter.

Regarding professional indemnity insurance is this something I need to ask to see to prove he has insurance or can I just take his word for it. The fact he is registered with CIAT does that mean he has indemnity insurance? I have found some of his work on the internet my project is a small kitchen extension, do you thing I should ask to see his complete work before I appoint him.



tommy10
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SKETCH3D

United Kingdom
80 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2009 :  07:40:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Tommy,

If he is CIAT registered and he is carrying out work for clients then he is required to carry insurance. There is no harm in asking that he carries this.
The following link may be of use to you
http://www.ciat.org.uk/en/members/find_a_practice/information_for_clients/



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Originally posted by tommy10

Thanks for the advice. I will not be going with the AT who offered to do the work privately as it didn’t seem right to me and the companys quote was very expensive I met with an AT yesterday who is registered with CIAT and he was excellent, he gave me so much information and clarified exactly what his role would be and understood my brief to the letter.

Regarding professional indemnity insurance is this something I need to ask to see to prove he has insurance or can I just take his word for it. The fact he is registered with CIAT does that mean he has indemnity insurance? I have found some of his work on the internet my project is a small kitchen extension, do you thing I should ask to see his complete work before I appoint him.



tommy10



Darren Bell (MCIAT)
http://www.sketch3d.co.uk
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tommy10

United Kingdom
38 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2009 :  16:34:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks I have read the website. I have emailed him to inform I would like to appoint him. I have asked him to send me in writing a letter of Engagement detailing his terms and conditions, the scope and terms of his services a formal contract. Which I guess is standard procedure. He's charges are £575 for planning and £575 for building regs which was the middle of the range quote I received. The guys that quoted cheaper didn't have the expericience. And the other guys I think were taking me for a ride quoting over £2,000 the prices are definatley more expensive in London.

tommy10
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Polstar

United Kingdom
75 Posts

Posted - 04/14/2009 :  10:58:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So, £1150 is midle of the road for a single room single storey extension in London??? I would be doing the planning AND building regs for about £575 (no VAT)!

Eddy Myers
Polstar Building Design
0191 2300306
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tommy10

United Kingdom
38 Posts

Posted - 04/16/2009 :  11:52:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, it looks like it. I met with 4 AT and the prices quoted was over a £1000 for planning and building regs. I can’t believe the difference in price to what you charge.

I am in the process of appointing an AT just need to sign the contract. I can’t wait to get going on the design. This is a learning process which you need to take time to ensure you employ the right people. The next daunting stage is employing the builder I bet the London prices are a lot more expensive to.


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SKETCH3D

United Kingdom
80 Posts

Posted - 04/18/2009 :  08:36:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Tommy,
As far as builders goes, many are still recovering from the pre-christmas nose dive. You will find plenty from out of London who will travel in for the right job and will still end up being competitive to local trades.

One builder whom I deal with regularly has done London jobs on a regular basis. S&M Builders based in Milton Keynes. You find find his details on the following link along with a couple of others. (Not sure if the other 2 will go that distance as they are smaller concerns)
http://www.sketch3d.co.uk/find-a-builder.html


Darren Bell (MCIAT)
http://www.sketch3d.co.uk
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tommy10

United Kingdom
38 Posts

Posted - 07/23/2009 :  13:28:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Please can you advise how long building regulations last for. I am currently going through the buiding regs process but will not be starting the work on my extension straight away. is there a time limit on builing regs? I know planning permission can be 3-5 years I have no idea regarding building regs.

tommy10
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fordy361

United Kingdom
7 Posts

Posted - 08/13/2009 :  19:51:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Our planning permission was for 5 years. we started this month with 6 months left. but building regs had ran out after 3 years which cost us another 450 pound

fordy
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Polstar

United Kingdom
75 Posts

Posted - 08/19/2009 :  18:05:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Building regs doesn't necessarily expire, its just that with regulations usually being updated every year they may ask for a re-submission after as short a time as 1 year! ( i think!)

Eddy Myers
Polstar Building Design
0191 2300306
www.polstarbuildingdesign.co.uk
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tommy10

United Kingdom
38 Posts

Posted - 09/15/2009 :  00:31:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Please can someone advise my extension is over or within 3 metres of a minor public sewer. The council have informed the water authority who have sent me a form of registration. I now have to send detail drawings plus a fee of £343 to the water authority. I already have conditional approval of plans which has been passed. Can the water authority stop me from builidng my extension. I don't beleive I should have to pay, if they have a problem they should come and assess the sewer first, is there any way pther than making my extension smaller that I can get away with not having to pay the water authority.

tommy10
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