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tommy10

United Kingdom
38 Posts

Posted - 03/06/2009 :  18:50:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

hello

I have been speaking to Architect's regarding a kitchen extension.
I have been given quotes from £75 to £550 for an intial vist.

Just wondering what is the best way to choose an architect?

tommy10

martin19842

United Kingdom
102 Posts

Posted - 03/06/2009 :  19:49:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hi there

initial visit i wouldnt really expect to pay anything,

unless,

they do a complete survey of the property, measure up, and agree to do an initial scheme for you, to be turned rould in say 14 days, to include proposed elevations, and layouts.

then

you should be prepared to shell out about £250

you may even get a couple of schemes for that.

then on the next visit to approve the scheme, and do the submission of PP then say another £250 plus the council fee.

hope that helps

regards

martin sales


Active Property Services
5 Shawley Road
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spring56

United Kingdom
105 Posts

Posted - 03/06/2009 :  23:25:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tommy10



I have been speaking to Architect's regarding a kitchen extension.
I have been given quotes from £75 to £550 for an intial vist.




First visit shouldn't cost anything, in fact you should get free intial advice - you shouldn't be under any obligation to procede if you dont like the guy, or his adeas are not want you want. They should furnish you with a quotation/schedule for their input after seeing/discussing the job with you.

Post you ideas and I'll give you some pointers, and I'm sure others on this forum can advise as well - it's best to have an idea in you head first before approaching an architect (or an architectural Technician - recommended)

PJ

Edited by - spring56 on 03/06/2009 23:30:18
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tommy10

United Kingdom
38 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2009 :  13:31:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi

Thanks for the advice.

My plan is to extend my kitchen into the rear garden. I currently have space for a small dinning table but would like to extend into a kitchen diner/social area.


The Architects I have contacted in my local area all charging this initial visit fee.
After reading the forum maybe I should use an Architectural Technician.

I would appreciate any advice you can give as I am finding this process daunting.



tommy10
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mptaylor66

United Kingdom
2 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2009 :  23:43:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,

Let us know where in the country you are and I'm sure there is someone on the forum who can come round and give you a head start.

It sounds like a pretty simple scheme so you probably don't need to pay Architect's rates, just get a technician to produce the drawings based on your own ideas. There may be some issues with drainage, trees or party walls but someone with a bit of experience will spot these when they visit.

Send me an email and I'll send some sample drawings of a similar scheme so you know what you are looking for.

Mark

mptaylor66@hotmail.com
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tommy10

United Kingdom
38 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2009 :  14:13:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am in Bromley Kent. I am currently looking for an Architectural Technician in my area using the CIAT website.

Can anyone on the forum recommend a technician in the Bromley or Lewisham London area?


tommy10
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spring56

United Kingdom
105 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2009 :  15:00:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tommy10

I am in Bromley Kent. I am currently looking for an Architectural Technician in my area using the CIAT website.

tommy10



Would you consider using someone not local if you are unsucessdul in obtaining someone near to you? Obviously it is best to see the site, speak direct and provide advice face to face, however not essential, some photographs and a few dimensions is all that is need to provide initaial sketch drawings, followed by design drawings and finally detailed drawings for building control - Yourself would be off course be more involved than normal, however this could be more rewarding.

Regards

PJ
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tommy10

United Kingdom
38 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2009 :  23:12:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I thought it would be best to use someone local as they may have more knowledge with the local council in regardings to planning permission and building regulations. Please advise me if I am wrong.

I was thinking of going for the design and build service as I have no idea on how to project manage the project. I will need to find out if technicains provide this service.



tommy10
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spring56

United Kingdom
105 Posts

Posted - 03/11/2009 :  00:18:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tommy

Will you not be getting a Builder to quote and build the whole package for you or do you intend organise various trades and possibly carry out some off the work yourself?

If its just a kitchen extension and the drawings are detailed enough with you requirements and the builder is competent then an Architect or Tecnologist shouldn't need to have little or no input during construction.

PJ
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Sig

United Kingdom
37 Posts

Posted - 03/11/2009 :  13:02:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tommy

Are you in a conservation area? You're saying about extend into the rear of your garden. Does this not then come under the new regulations in planning?
Check planning portal online for the details but i have feeling that without seeing what you plan to do it may not need planning permission. Of course it would also be advisable to take some photo's and a ariel photo and explain what you plan to do with your local Duty Planning Officer.
You will need building regulations though.

My suggestion to you is as the others guys have mentioned get some quote's from Architect's/ Technician's/ etc. Look at their previous work and then decide who to go with. Any builder of good quality will talk with the 'planner' and be able to build to the drawings provided.

Hope this helps.



Martin Sigournay BSc (Hons) C.A.P.D.
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tommy10

United Kingdom
38 Posts

Posted - 03/14/2009 :  11:38:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello

Thanks for the advice. I have read the info on the planning portal which was very helpful. I don't think I will go ahead with the full build and design as you stated this is a small easy project.





tommy10
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tommy10

United Kingdom
38 Posts

Posted - 03/23/2009 :  22:51:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I met with an architectural technician to go through the plans for my kitchen extension. I was quoted £1200 for drawings and surveying. then 3% of the total construction cost of the project. He said it would cost £40,000 to extend plus add a new fitted Kitchen I asked him to send me a detailed email of his fee as I found it confusing. I want to extend my current kitchen 5.41m x 1.88m to 5.41 x 5.23 Please advice if 40,000 is a correct figure for a kitchen extension. I have a few more AT to see this week hopefully after I have seen them I can get an idea for the price in my area.

tommy10
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spring56

United Kingdom
105 Posts

Posted - 03/23/2009 :  23:09:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Tommy

Your extension will measure approx. 5.4x3.5m (19 sq.m approx.)I would estimate construction costs to be around £20,000 (excluding kitchen) - Is the 3% of construction cost quoted additional for site supervision? I shouldn't think this be necessary for a small extension. Have you tried any technicians who would do your drawings as a homer (work in the evenings), you would get the same standard of drawings for a lot less expense.

PJ

Edited by - spring56 on 03/23/2009 23:13:49
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tommy10

United Kingdom
38 Posts

Posted - 03/24/2009 :  01:01:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for your advice. I had a feeling his quote was high. I did explain I wasn't intrested in site supervision. I have a TA who's fee for a single storey extension planning application are circa £500 plus VAT. I guess AT charge more in the London area. A builder who I found on the FMB website said he could do the job for £1000 per sq.m and could reccommend an AT. I may have to give him a call back as I had not done all my research at the time.



tommy10
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tommy10

United Kingdom
38 Posts

Posted - 03/24/2009 :  17:58:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi another question, I don't think I want to go through the planning permission process myself. who do you think is best to apply for me the Architect or the builder? I guess it would depend on what they charge which one you go with?

tommy10
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tommy10

United Kingdom
38 Posts

Posted - 03/25/2009 :  00:09:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
has anyone used the Local Surveyors Direct website to find a Architectural technician. I met with an Architect they recommend today who quote was very good. I am a little dubious as I cannot find him or his company on the CIAT,ARB or RIBA websites. he has a website but the address it different from what I was given on the Local Surveyor website. he has the following letters after his name MA RIDBA EDA do you know what these stand for? Also please advise if a Chartered Surveyor firm can be used for Architectural Design.

Sorry for the long thread but choosing the right AT is driving me mad. I think I will stick with the list I have found on the CIAT website.

tommy10
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